Payment Delays: oDesk Provider’s Bruhaha

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There is a lot of spam message going on right now with oDesk providers who are part of the gDev team. The original message which started from a simple “hi” turns out to carry more than what meets the eye.

UAE based company, gDEV FZ LLC who claims to be the biggest employer in oDesk started sending out invitations and hiring providers for a fixed rate fee to undergo several tests and a Skype interview that’s intended for various technical and customer service positions. Well, who wouldn’t be enticed to grab the opportunity? gDEV offers $40-60 fixed rate fee for spending just 3-4 hours of taking the exams and a few minutes of Skype interview, and the best part, if you get hired, you get a whopping $10 hourly rate or more depending on the nature of your job. That seemed to be a dream job to many freelancers who are still living on a feast and famine kind of life. But that seems to be perceived as too good to be true when all these grievance messages started to sprout.

Are the gDEV invitations just a hoax then? I don’t think it’s enough ground to say that they are not legitimate. Delays are part of the hiring process. And as applicants, I guess, it may as well be taken against us if we show impatience.

gDEV has already issued a stern warning for those who will continue with the flared messages. To those who were not able to control their patience and have not put their complaints in proper channeling, it may have just caused you a quicker kill on your chances of getting hired.

Again, patience is a virtue.

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  • I was too exicited abt working for gdev when i saw the employment history but i lost interest as i think it somehow diminish the joy of freelancing and make it a regular job.
    And yeah I did got paid 100$ for taking tests, so its not a spam 🙂

  • Lee

    There were actually no large delays with me and gDEV, although I was worried there would be after investigating them on Google and reading this article. I accepted their fixed-price "job"/interview, and about a week later they sent me information on completing the tests and the interview. Once I did, I got paid the next day, and got a job offer the day after that. Not spam!

    • Florante Valdez

      Sounds good. I did get paid as well although mine took longer than the usual process. I did not land the job but I'm happy to hear that you actually nailed it.

      • Elance Freelancer

        HI,
        I have been asked for a skype interview. I read couple of comments saying we cannot see them as video is turned off at their end. Want to know what to expect in the skype interview like. If you do not give your Id will they not talk to you. Do they ask to take test or ask id details during the interview.
        Anyone please comment.
        Freelancer

  • Newbie

    I just finished my Skype interview and was really pleased to see that payment and feedback were done on oDesk, within 10 minutes. I just hope I get the job.

  • marilyn

    Wow thats great! I am interviewing with them for a second time. The first position I didn't get but I got the offer to interview for one that is a higher level. I have taken the tests. I scored very well and I will be interviewing tonight! I am very hopeful of a job offer based on my test scores! I will keep you posted.

    • rao nadeem

      Hi,
      I have done my test phase for gteam and now i’ll be interviewing with them.Can you please tell me about the details of interview?What do they ask in interview, I mean is it technical or what sort of interview it is?

      Regards,
      Rao nadeem

  • Harmony

    I have also worked for gDev. They always paid on time.

  • Jack Rinoa

    BEWARE!!! GDev FZ LLC is a HOAX. Don't fall victim like me. Their modus operandi is send you an invitation which requires you to take a series of tests spread out in 5 days. They'll bait you with hundreds of dollars income. I researched on the company and all they have is a one-page website.How can they afford to pay 30 dollars per hour when they cannot even put up a decent website?? Worse, they don't even pay you for the time you have spent on taking the tests. They are so wise they will make you set the contract to $1.00 inclusive so you cannot even leave a contractor feedback !!! These people should never engage in legitimate sites such as Odesk. They will just ruin Odesk's reputation. Check out the url below to find out: http://www.gdev.com/

    • Florante Valdez

      Thank you for your comment. It's sad that you seem to have a different experience with GDEV. I've never made it to the projects they have invited me to apply but contrary to your experience, I received $60 payment for taking the tests and going through the interview.
      What seems to have happened is that, they no longer offer the same fee for those who go through their screening process.

    • Mark

      Their website is actually http://www.gdev.biz/ and is indeed just one page. hmmm I agree that they don't provide enough info. The invitations they send are always generic, therefore, very possibly spam.

    • Do your research. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versata states that gDev is an incorporated entity of Trilogy. Trilogy basically owns Versata. Trilogy uses gDev as its outsourcing group in India and recruits on international sites such as oDesk and Elance.

      Even if you take no stock n Wikipedia, this wiki entry has 14 references and numerous external links.

  • Ryan Hidajat

    I just decline their invitation… I was really interested, they are offering $30 for an hour and they only paying $1 for the interview, that is really huge wasting time for me. Probably if they are offering $100 for 5 days interview I think I'm gonna take it, but do they I'm still afraid if failed on interview they gonna give bad feedback.

  • Kathleen Walder

    I was just invited to interview. I would be very interested to hear from someone who has worked for GDEV on an ongoing basis.

  • Belle

    hi! where can i take gdev tests?

  • John Knowell
  • Florante Valdez

    Hi John,

    Looks like you're in a crossroad. One thing I always keep in mind when i come to a point of choosing between two (almost) equally enticing option is to weigh the pros and cons. If you already have a work and you are happy with what you are doing, at the same time if it meets your needs, your loyalty will have it's big return in the future.

    Don't get me wrong, I know gDev offers really high paying salary. But consider that you are still starting at square one with them. There is a big risk that you will have to consider. Because in the end, you may end up losing both.

    Think and pray before you take your next step.

    I hope that helps.

    Florante

  • Nikita

    big big scam. devfactory.com now, I noticed the gdev in the user name of the person sending invites. The phone number for contact us on devfactory.com goes to a completly different company, I have no idea how they got odesk to show as if they spent that amount of money and hours billed, must have somehow messed with odesk to do that. Don’t do this I think its identity theft, why would they ask for a copy of your drivers lisence, next thing i bet would be social security code, scam fake, closed book. PS all comments above being spammed probably by the same company to try to continue the scam.

    • Florante Valdez

      Hi Nikita,
      This is totally a different scenario i’m seeing now. When i first wrote this post, there was no such thing, so I guest, it’s evolving pretty quick. I was never ask for a driver’s license or any similar personal document.
      With regards to the oDesk record they have, I don’t think that is something that can be easily manipulated without oDesk flexing its muscle to make sure it protects it’s reputation.

  • Le-Quyen

    I did get an invitation to take tests but I am still waiting. Can you guys tell me the type of tests that I have take?

    • Florante Valdez

      The test will depend on the position to which you were invited to apply. Gdev actually has a lot of different positions they recruit. I was invited before as customer service, project manager. Just make sure you know the position you are applying for and the responsibilities associated to it. If that’s settled, then you’ll get a better chance of landing the job.

  • I took gdev exams I guess about 3 months ago then they said there would be $1 fixed rate upon taking those exams.Unfortunately I didn’t receive any payment.But just recently they invited me for an interview.I guess I have to try for the 2nd time around.Been really hoping to land an online job with a very good employer.

  • joel

    I am surprised by those calling gDev a hoax or scam. If you are an Odesk freelancer, you would see that gDev has spent over 26million in salaries since they started operations. And yes, they are the largest employer on oDesk.

    I work for them and I love the,,,,THE BEST!!!!!

    • Florante Valdez

      Hi Joel,

      It’s good hear the other side of the story. I’m glad that you are working with them and you are enjoying your stay with them. I hope others won’t just listen to hearsays and unsatisfied applicants. As I’ve mentioned in a previous reply, the figures showing how many thousands of hours and how many oDesk contractors are involved in their projects is enough proof to dismiss the allegations of it being a scam. And most certainly, oDesk will weed this out if this is indeed a scam.

  • Jay

    After a day or two improving my Odesk profile, taking some necessary skill tests and applying to several recruitment positions, I finally got an interview invite today with GDev. Wow! That’s quick! I’m pretty much confused on what will be my next step. There is a button in Odesk for me to click in order for me to accept the interview invitation but there is also an instruction in the ad that if I wish to apply for a certain GDEV position I need to apply thru their website by clicking on a link that is included in the ad. Which of the two should I do first? Will I be breaching any agreement with Odesk if I follow the link and apply thru their site? If you know how to go about this process, let me know. I will appreciate any information. I don’t want to kill my chance just because I did a wrong move. Help!

    • Florante Valdez

      Hi Jay,

      You can click on the link that they have given you. I also received an invitation from them with this link: http://tbe.taleo.net/NA5/ats/careers/requisition….
      Based on their invitation there will be a testing phase and a trial phase before they make the job offer. So as long as the job remains inside oDesk there shouldn’t be any complications with that. However, if they have offered you the job and would like you to work outside of the oDesk environment, then that’s a violation of oDesk rules.

      I hope this helps.

      Florante

      • Amit

        I want to write a lot about this DevFactory / gDev FZ LLC, Dubai (www.devfactory.com), but due to time constraint, I m trying to tell maximum in few lines….

        Their intention is to save US government taxes, by routing their income from US to Dubai (a tax free zone!) And as IRS (Internal revenue services) wants a detail of every penny flows outside US by US firm, they have to legitimately show that they have hired people and paid them and that is how their Dubai firm had made a lot of profit!!! And this is why they hire people on oDesk and eLance. i.e. Just to show US authority (IRS), and Not to get any genuine work done!!!!

        And while achieving this(enforced payment to show IRS), they have done a mutual benefit contract with oDesk or eLance that while achieving their goal of saving tax, they will promote this freelancing culture and their sites.

        So for that, they will send invites to mostly all oDesk or eLance users, luring them with an extra ordinary payment offer (starting from 15$ per hour, 40hr/week), and lure them to apply for interview and test.

        Then they will try to engage you maximum in the process using a highly un-predictable course of actions (in other words, you will never inform in advance about what will happen when (exact in time)), mostly when u give online test and a brief skype interview, you will never know from when your contract will start. **So they will try maximum to detach you from your ongoing work!!!!**

        Once offered a contract, their immediate goal is to annoy/irritate/frustrate you to terminate your contract (there are thousands way to do this, you will get to know once you get a contract). If you wont get annoyed enough to terminate your contract by yourself, they will kick you out siting a performance reason!!!

        **So, once they offered you a contract, their immediate goal will be to kick you out as soon as possible.** So that they can cover maximum number of freelancers in their budget! (of Course they don’t have a money plant to pay you 10$ to 30$ per hour, 40hr/week!!!).They need to pay in proportion of book amount/profit they want to transfer from US to Dubai!

        So please don’t get trapped!!! Don’t leave your full time job looking at their luring offer! **They don’t want to pay you for a long time, in fact they will try to get rid of you as early as possible!**

        And Finally, don’t ever think that they have some serious/genuine work for you to get it done!!! It is worst time pass in IT ever!!!

        Disclaimer: This is a personal views of a writer and do not constitutes any legal claims.

  • Charudatta

    Hi,

    I have some different experience about GDev. I completed their test, which was for around 4 hours. After that, I did not receive any feedback from them about the test, payment, or even the further work. When I sent a message, I got the reply that a supervisor is assigned to check my test, but again there is no reply from last one month.

    Now, in my Odesk account, I see that the GDev contract is ended but the job is still listed under the Active Candidacies. Now, I don’t know if I should wait for this job or I just ignore this.

    -Charudatta

    • Florante Valdez

      Hi Chaduratta,

      I think the best thing for you to do is to make another follow up with them. In my case I made a follow through the odesk messaging system as well as with the person who interviewed me over skype. After a couple of days, i received my payment.

      I hope this helps.

  • john

    the only problem with gdev is that it’s a full time job under cover.
    this means they can end the contract any minute and you are on the street.
    in a regular job if they are going to fire you they have to pay you money, you have vacations, medical care, etc.
    that’s why I never ended up working for them.

  • keith

    I think some things people have complained about can be adequately explained by simple cluelessness or bad manners on the part of the gDev people. How many times have you complained about sending resumes and cover letters and you never heard back from the hiring company? How many times have you had a job interview and after you left you never heard from them again?

    Let's see if we can get some harder information. Those of you who say you work for them, did they also ask you for a copy of your driver's license? If so, did they explain why they needed it? And, can you please post something that will substantiate your employment with them? At least one person has alleged that all the posts in favor of gDev are spam; can you show something to gainsay that?

    Has anyone investigated gDev and found anything bad about them beyond vague suspicions in chat rooms and blogs? Has anyone found any legal complaints against them, or negative writeups in trade journals or other reputable publications?

    • John

      I took the evaluation for one job and I received my scores back a few days after the test ended. One was surprisingly high and a two should have been higher. I know how to score higher when I take this test again.

      My test involved logging in to one of their clouds and I had access to some documentation and old work product from their development process. From what I saw, they are the real deal. You can’t fake the stuff I read to support a scam because you would actually end up with a ‘going concern’.

      I accept the silence on the other side of the wall as necessary. They need to keep the signal to noise ratio high to keep from being overrun by barbarians. There are a lot more people on the outside who don’t have the skills than there are qualified candidates.

      Look at the total hours billed on ODesk over a few days and estimate the number of contractors they have employed. My guess comes in the hundreds.

  • Brijesh Amin

    Hi,

    First of all I thank Florante Valdez for helping out all the freelancers by putting up these blogs.

    I am working as a full time employee and also started working as a freelancer. I received an offer from gDev on oDesk. Yesterday I cleared the test and within one hour I came to know that I cleared the test. The person who was my point of contact was from Philippines and asked me if I was ready to appear for skype interview after 2-3 hours. I said yes and the interview was scheduled immediately. I cleared the interview and I was informed that I will be endorsed to HR by that person and I will receive a test assignment.

    The offer I received was of $0.99. They did not mentioned that I will be paid for clearing the interview but they have mentioned that for the test assignment I will be paid based on the hourly rate mentioned in the job posting on oDesk.

    What I have observed that they are putting up job postings which are invite only and visible to only those people whom they invite.

    I will post more details once I hear back from them. Meanwhile if anyone can share their recent experience it will be very helpful.

    Thanks,
    Brij

    • Sola

      Hi Brijesh,

      I have been invited to write their test as well, what am I to expect, i"ll appreciate your prompt feedback as I hope to write it tonight.

      Thanks

  • Tom

    People, are you so naive to see the truth behind all of this? It's just oDesk! They're just using people to work for free! They are never paying anything! Look at the profiles of their "well-paid" ex-contractors, most of that are accounts without any history, job description is hidden, and what? Newbies are earning 18k+, 100k+??? This comany even don't exist, and you think that they paid to odesk 10% (odesk's fee from payments to employees) of the money they spent already there (what is MORE THAN $2Millions!) Are you really so blind???

  • Brijesh

    Hi ALL,

    I received a trial assignment just 15-20 days ago. Completed it successfully and was paid the next day. Now I have been hired and working on hourly rate. So I will say gdev is not fake….

    Enjoy,
    Brij

    • jeanie

      hi Brij , would you be kind to provide an update of your current Job with Gdev? I recieved the message, but failed the exams, they said I am able to re-apply in 6 months, for a moment it seemed to be a fake company. But it seems a reliable one

    • gDev Interviewer

      What is your gDev title and your hourly rate?

  • usama sana

    Hi All,
    First of all you must know that they will not pay you a single dollar unless you are get hired,it involves(Testing,interview + one week trial assignment).
    Second they only select top 5%,so apply only if you are fully confident that you are best.
    A person with intermediate skills can pass (initial test + interview) but it is hard game to pass trial week assignment,they will reject you even if you have completed assignment successfully but not in top 5%.
    I was rejected just for not properly commenting my assignment code.

    Any how GDev is good company with well established standards.

    • maano

      Did you get paid for your trail work (although you were not in top 5%) but you spent 40 hrs on it.

    • secannon

      I’m curious, where did you see that top 5% figure, please? The reason I’m asking is, I’ve passed the tests and the interview for three different full-time positions with GDev or DevFactory or whatever it’s called, and I’ve been hired for the one week trial project. I am waiting for my instructions right now.

      Thanks!

  • Ronny

    Guys, I applied for L2 Software Support, I did the tests and had the interview with the Human Resources person, they told me they will send me the trial assignment, but I haven´t heard anything from them since a couple of days. Do any of you know how long it is going to take?

    Im pretty confident about my skills, actually the tests were pretty easy for me, but definitely it takes a while to be hired.

    If any of you know how long is going to take to receive the trial assignments, please let me know.

  • Pooja

    Hello everyone

    I have something to share with u about Gdev!!

    I received an invitation from gdev and i accepted that. Then, I took a 3-4 hour test (where i got more than 85% scores), a skype Interview (and i passed that), then a trial assignment for one week.

    And then I GOT NOTHING. Could it be said a Good Hiring Policy?

    I have heard for the trial tasks that before hiring, u need to pass a trial test (but it could be for some minutes or some hours, not FEW DAYS and THAT TOO WITHOUT ANY PAYMENT)

    The system can be that the Trial task will be a paid task and if we or our work is not suitable to their Environment,then we will not be hired for hourly Project. Because we have already passed their tests and that can be called a TRIAL TEST.

    As per my understanding, GDEV IS A FRAUD!!

    And the reasons for my belief are:
    – If they have vacancy for 1-10 person, then they are inviting hundreds and thousands of contractors (through different Job postings) just for their publicity ( and specially the new contractors)

    – Look at the contractors profile, which are hired by Gdev, 80% of them have nothing in their profile and they are getting paid thousands of dollars in a short period. And Gdev Website is a Single page. they might not have time to upgrade that!!

    – And the most Important point is, when the trial week is finished and they got all their work done, they send an Email that LACK OF CREDENTIALS, then WHY THEY HAVE INVITED US??
    They came to us just through our profile and the Credentials. The Decisive point should be the SCORES for each contractors and the errors in the Trial task. They have disclosed nothing. Then how someone can believe that we are not in Top 5. Although we are very confident that everything is just exactly as per their need.

    – And how someone can pay $156 per hour rate to a newbie, which has nothing more than the Name in their profile. What they liked and why they invited that contractor? What was the attracting point for them in that new profile?

    So As per my view, DEV FACTORY IS A FRAUD and BE SAFE and please read my post before working for them.

  • Sola

    Hi All,

    Can anyone please give an idea of what their tests look like as I have been invited to write one which I intend to write this evening.

    Your prompt feedback will be appreciated.

    Thanks

  • Chopra

    My opinion is "Do not waste your time with them"

    I recently received the offer from them,completed the test + interview and was hired into fixed price assignment of +500$.

    I worked with full concentration and completed my assignment before the due time.
    This was a fully functional assignment but after that they stop responding me to show as they are very busy anyhow after a wait of 1.5 week of was informed that
    "You did the well but competition was tough" too easy to waste the my hard-work.

    They also claim that they will hire you for another suitable job if you worked consistently but this is also fraud,they event not pay you 1$ for test as they claim in Odesk offer.

    So my opinion is not good for this firm.

    • Abu

      I totally agreed. This is the same case happened to me. I spent about two weeks to complete their entire process and I did well in each step. At last they did not get back to me at all. After so many emails and Skype them, they responded through oDesk saying that "Another provider selected".

      I also recommend not to waste your time.

  • mary

    I dont know if they are really recruting. Seems like they are posting the same positions over and over again. I think in trial period they want people to do job for free for them. Whatever you would do, you wont be hired. If you post comment or question on odesk, they will delete your post.Something is wrong?Most of the people whom work there are from Phillpines? Suspicious? No one even want to answer for your questions.If it was legimate why they are recruiting thousand of people, posting all the time the same ads???Its horrible if you make big commitment and even wont get a job I think its waste of time.

  • Charlie

    I just got the offer, turned down the first one and now I got another email from a gmail account asking me to take the tests at .90usd, I submitted my id when I first applied so I guess now they are looking for the rest of my documents, SCAM. How much would they get to sell your identity? You wanna make a deal?

  • Freelancer

    If you look at their Odesk profile, LinkedIn profile and even their website… you'll notice that GDev is not a real company. Their payment history in Odesk looks too good to be true, if you look at the profiles of those who supposedly "worked" for them, you'll notice that they don't have other work history but received big payments from GDev… so I believe they are bogus profiles. Their LinkedIn profile looks fake as well. My conclusion…their hiring activities are just a front but it is actually a money laundering act. They don't hire, but they create profiles and pay the "freelancers" (who don't really exist) a huge sum of money so it turns into "clean" money.

  • ryza

    worked with GDEV for more than a year, and I never really had a problem with their payment etc. Then now, I was invited for another position at $10 per hour, I took the tests, underwent a Skype interview and will be starting with the trial phase. I don't think they are bogus. I have been happily working with them and I have no problems!

    • George

      Hi Ryza,

      Question, why did you quit after the first year? Do you think Gdev is a stable workplace? Please, let me know your thoughts.

    • Chandan

      Sorry no offence but your face resembles another philipino, so most probably you are just a marketing agent of this fake company :-/

      • John

        You forget t.hat people running a scam can just lift pictures from the web. I don’t think that a picture is necessary and would not use one because I just don’t want to frighten the children.

  • Net

    Thank you for starting this blog. Like most of you here, i received an invitation from the company to interview for 3 positions. I started testing for another position after a week since i was still attending to other clients. I just ended my trial testing phase with this client. I am just alarmed since i uploaded my ID into their system.

    Below are the reasons why i decided to end the contract with them though i haven't been paid the testing fee whatsoever.
    1. The testing instructions were sent to my email and not via odesk.
    2. I took the test for 2 or 3 hours, did not receive feedback from the online test and instead received an email that there were more qualified contractors.
    3. Since they were intending to hire me via odesk, notification that my application was denied should have been with odesk and not thru my personal email.
    4. There were no names on the email, just the generic Recruitment Manager which made me question the legality of their contractors.

    I also read their privacy policy on the website which is quite alarming! Somehow i felt like a guinea pig instructed to take the test, being observed indiscreetly via webcam. Proper recruitment/ testing should have been that you know or at least can see who is administering the exam.

  • Fooled

    It's a scam. They make you go for a "trial" week, with real work. That week is only paid if you get hired. Of course they never hire you. They keep the work. This way they get work done for free. They should be sued, and they will be.

    • tdpCA

      That's what I was thinking. They give 100 people small assignments for low or no wage and then they have a finished project for nearly nothing.

  • Isitscam

    Is anybody here in US have taken their job with that low pay..If so, please respond so I can get in touch.

    thanks

  • I strongly agree that even trial hours should be paid. Sometimes, this can be exploited by employers to get small work done at no price. I recommend that you check out Staff.com which is similar to Odesk but trial hours are paid at a minimum price for 10 hours only to make sure the contractor is protected as well.

    • Florante Valdez

      There are varying instances when and why would be employers want to check for competency before actually investing or hiring us, and I think that is reasonable. However, you also need to be very observant if the trial phase is becoming more of the actual work you are doing. For data entry, trial is an almost no-no for me.

  • maano

    i'll update you all when i get hired

  • Katie

    Hi Everyone,
    I just did a search for this company, since I think that they got me scammed big time… even though I am proud of spotting such scam artists from miles away…:))) Well, I guess such is life, they sounded like a very legit and trustworth company. ok, here's the story:
    I got invited to a job via an online freelancer platform I am a member of. (Other than ODesk, but very similar – so seems like they are all over the internet scamming hundreds and thousands of people) The whole hiring process was very professional-looking and thorough, they required a formal CV, I had to complete an online assesment test large companies give you before even letting you meet with one of the recruiters, then someone contacted me via Skype, did a video interview (I found it a bit strange that I was requested to use video, but I didn't get to see the other end – but at the time I just got over this). After the video interview the guy said that I did very well in the online assesment phase, also with him so he was happy to hire me for the trial week, which pays $400 flat rate via the online platform they invited me at.
    I was to work as a recruitment specialist, trying to hire candidates for this company. I accepted the offer via the freelance site, saw that the pay was $400 for the trial week, just like they mentioned before (no words were said about NOT getting paid if they don't hire you afterwards you complete your trial week).

    Long story made short: I basically worked my butt off for over a week, gathered about 50 peope via social media and personal connections (I hope none of them got scammed with them – I will send out warning letters to each one of them to stay away from this company). At the end of the trial period I got a letter from them stating that: "based on your performance unfortunately we cannot consider your trial week as successfully passed". Ok, I didn't really get it, since I delivered over 50 appropriate candidate's to them during this period, but what could I do? They marked my project as 'completed' on the online platform and I expected to be paid in a timely manner. When this didn't happen as of today, I contaced them via Skype and I was told that: 'I regret to inform you that you won't be paid for your trial week. As stated in the job description:" Those who fail to complete the trial assignment successfully will be released from the trial phase unpaid."

    Well, this is not the case, my contract that I virtually signed with them clearly stated the weekly fixed payment, regardless of the fact of hiring me or not. So I am now filing a dispute against them via the online work platform we used.

    Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else got caught in this, I am determined to get the word out there to everyone to avoid them and spread the word so they don't get anyone else working for them for free.

  • gdev Interviewer

    It's too well organized to be a fraud. It's simply a system that is poorly managed and staffed with people that can't or won't handle human-resources related issues. I've taken the tests for several different positions: the CQA is a joke: don't waste your time unless you know someone that can get you hired. As hard as you work, they won't tell you why you failed or how you can do better. You spend a week of your time working for free and they say "sorry, you failed. Learn to read code better." I've been through that process two times. Your hiring manager is in the Philippines, your assignment comes from India, etc. They all gfet paid whether you're hired or not, I assume.

    If they really wanted talented people they would groom them properly: if I knew why I 'failed' the Trial Period, I could do better next time. They won't tell you anything.

    I badgered someone vis Skype until he told me I scored 71% and the cut-off is 80%.
    The code reading assignments are almost silly. There's a drop-down list of categories to which the 'flaws'
    should be assigned. Those categories overlap all over the place. I don't know if I mis-categorized the flaws
    or I missed some flaws altogether.

    This evaluation process is incredibly inefficient and benefits no one. Obviously gDev has the entire planet to
    select from and they must assume that they can keep testing pools of candidates until they find the precious
    few that they think they need. Business doesn't work this way.

    Another weirdness: They don't ask for references or transcripts and they don't verify resumes. At least, they don't
    verify anything as far as I can tell. I've never passed a Trial or Probation period. Maybe they wait until they are
    ready to offer a job before they initiate the verification process.

    If you're testing for a TAM position, don't bother. The working environment they provide, a cloud-based VM, is
    going to be flawed and you won't get any help. You will get non-working credentials and you can't get help in a
    reasonable time period. You will be expected to log into systems that you don't have permission to access.

    if you ask for help, forget it. You only have a week to get the Trial Period work completed and it will take that long to
    get someone to respond to your help requests.

    And don't ask for any help understanding the instructions. No one will respond. If the assignment has a bug in
    it, you'll never know.

    Perhaps they work this way in some parts of the world. but from my perspective we just don't do
    business that way. In the US we hire people and provide them with some minimal level of support so they
    can do their jobs. We don't have the resources to continuously throw prospective employees into the
    deep end of the pool and see who doesn't drown.

    Another warning: don't be in a hurry: if you pass the initial test and you pass the initial Skype interview, don't
    expect to be treated professionally. Eventually you will hear from a new email address that will send you
    your trial period assignment. it may take a few days or it may take a month. One day the assignment will appear
    in your inbox and it's too bad for you if you already have something scheduled for that week: they don't care. This
    is another good example of gDev's gross misunderstanding of how business is conducted. They seem to
    assume that we prospective employees are sitting around nothing. How they expect to find quality people
    is baffling to me when they don't keep you informed of any scheduling plans.

    If you have any coments, email me at gdevinterviewer@gmail.com. I am not affiliated with gDev or any of
    its competitors. I am interested in your perspective. Your contact info will remain confidential.

  • stopscam

    They have been posting the same advertisement, "urgently" looking for an Italian bilingual sales manager every week since more than two years, on basically every job site, by the same person (that seems to be a certain valeria c., who linkedin says has been working for devfactory for the same length of time she has been trying to fill that position). They must have been very unlucky in not finding someone to "urgently" work for them, given the extremely high pay they seem to prospect and the frequency/quantity of advertisements. They use people only for free work.
    The ID request was suspicious as well. People should always print their email address and a note into the scanned document. I (lucky, gotta say) didn't pass the test and didn't make it to the UNPAID scam itself. But the test was equally suspicious. Any company would give you a percentage for passing or not. No way to verify which were your wrong answers or score.
    On oDesk, the only thing you need to do to be tested is "accepting" the test phase, no screening at all.
    Another strange thing is that the Italian bilingual sales manager requires (in capital letters) CANDIDATES MUST BE BASED OUTSIDE ITALY. They are complete scam. If you still have doubts, go for it, but something tells me you'll be posting about being scammed. Those who say they worked for them and got paid gotta be devfactory people.

    • gua

      i got my grades

  • Maano

    I am now sure that DEV Factory is fake and playing some game behind the scene. I too gave an interview to them where only they could see me and i have no idea who took my interview. And then they offered my a trial period work assignment on odesk.com . But after 2 months still they have not given me any work to do! and when i asked them on skype a few weeks ago they said there is some delay but till now no work came. But today i have again received an interview call for the same job posting! This is all RUBBISH.
    Odesk must keep an eye on them!!

  • Bilal Usman

    I have been hired by DevFactory yesterday for the job and I must say that I am rather surprised by all the above comments. My hiring process was similar to what is normally the case in my country. I gave a test and after one week I was selected for a trial week assignment which I received during the following week. The next week. was of course the trial week. After that they took a week for evaluation and during that week, I was hired. It is normal for large companies of this magnitude to take this much time and I am very much satisfied with the professionalism they showed during the entire process. The Managers were very warm and cordial. They responded promptly and supported me throughout the process.

    I hope this clears any doubts many people will have about the process and to those who are seeking its authenticity. It is authentic. Its not possible to fraud oDesk and Devfactory is a legitimate company. And quoting the comment above me "Its too well organized to be a fraud" in the first place. I rest my case.

    • AceOne

      I have to call BS on this post. You seem to be the *only* person here who has been hired after the trial. Not to mention the fact that you never state whether or not you were paid for “trial”.

      This sounds like a total scam to me and I think that the objective is to give each person a segment of some work gDev is doing for their clients. Then, they reject the candidate and submit the consolidated segments/pieces of the project. Finally, gDev collects payment from their clients and the “applicant” gets nothing.

      This scam is not well organized and the company is advertising all over the net – including using several names on CraigsList. But it it quite pervasive and they seem to have a handful of people who are perpetrating this “con” against the thousands of IT workers who are currently looking for either primary or secondary employment.

      • mohamed taher

        i have to call your reply BS , read every comment in here ,and count how many people got hired after testing , uless you can not count , i can count em for you.

  • peter henry

    Ok, I had read this blog and taken in all with a pinch of salt, both pros and cons.. but I still went ahead and tried out for a position at Devfactory, blame it on how enticing the offers are !! Long story short, there are many things that don't add up when it comes to their whole interview process. Has anyone contacted oDesk staff to try find out who exactly these people are and how they can pull what seems to be an elaborate scam under their noses ??

  • I received an interview invitation from gdev 2 months ago for a multilingual position. I failed this test.

    I forgot about it as I am working in real life. Come a week later I receive another invite for the same position in another language. I accepted i it but since I was busy with real life work I wasnot able to take the exam immediately.

    I received a lot of emails from them warning me that my invite will expire soon and I better take it. I took the exam. After a day or so, I get another bunch of mails warning me that I have to take the test or it will expire. I logged into odesk to see if my test registered and it did. I messaged them telling them I already took the test. No reply.

    After three days I get one mail telling me to take the test and message them back upon finishing. I thought ok what the heck, take the test again. I mailed the lady and told her I took the test again. She got back to me saying I passed . She invited me to a skype interview.

    Come the day and time of interview, I had to message her so we could begin. She said ok let me pull up your file. I said ok. Then she said I just have a question, did you already apply for this job before in another language? I said yes, gdev invited me.

    Then she said actually I need 6 months to retry again so she will have to clear with manager . I was like wth? You invited me, you bothered me to retake the test and you scheduled an interview, without checking if I was eligible to apply?You wasted my time? Then they mailed me saying I cannot go through the skype interview, that my application is terminated.

    Unbelievable. People have no consideration. I couldve worked those hours and made me some money. I am filipino too, but filipinos in the philippines dont seem to realize theimportance of time, and the seriousness of robbing us of Our time. Unlike you guys over there, we dont earn peanuts per hour over here ! An hour of my time is a decent amount of money, money stolen from me by your ineffiency! people here will never do that to you.

    Admittedly, I wanted an online job so I can be indoors during winter. But I guess if its too good to be true, it usually is. Now ill throw the remaining two invitations down the bin because gdev sucks.

  • Razvan

    Hello all,

    So just for me to understand. Are they doing this for what? If you don’t get hired it means that your results suck and they can’t do much with it. What kind of work are you supposed to do perform during the trial faze? Do they go through all this trouble just for fun? To me a scam means that the aggressor gets something (usually money) In Freelancing time is money but I don’t see their benefit unless there is someone in between being paid for your work during the trial week.

    Any thoughts?

    Regards, Razvan

  • raven

    My take on this is that, they possibly could be a valid company but the way they defraud people is that they ask hopeful contractors to do things for free. Like the testing phase week. You will be asked to do the actual work but they do not intend to pay you. They in turn collect from their clients while you the hapless freelancer is waiting on what will happen next. That is some of the job postings are 3 years old and has not been updated, they always seek people to do things for free. They limit the process to a week so it will not be so obvious that they are scamming people. I passed the test today and was having my video interview but the interviewer kept on getting disconnected and to think she is from Europe and she had bad internet connection was kind of fishy and then I found this blog. Thanks for the info. Will check out what happens next and post again.

  • Dave

    I’ve started working with them. They might abuse the trial period, I’ll be starting it and will report back. But it’s actually a legitimate company. It’s part of Versata Enterprises, http://www.crunchbase.com/company/versata . Going to http://www.versata.com/ you’ll see the link to DevFactory. That’s why some people thought they listed a fake number. DevFactory appears to be just a brand, and the phone line is really to main company, Versata out of Texas.

  • Avic Pila

    gDEV for me isnt only a scam but a very TRUE Scam. Many times I’ve rejected their offer in odesk yet they keep on inviting me and when I tried to welcome them many times, they only offer $1/ hour and most of the time they just send me the Job offer of $1/ hour thinking I will be enticed well Fuck with them.

  • Fritzgerald, F.

    As a veteran contractor and Employer of Odesk who brought in $25,000.00 USD in only a span of nearing one year (11 Months) I would say that I am the best person who can truly testify what is really in the inside or everything how odesk operates their so called good policy;

    As a contractor, I am clever how to arrange something with clients that’s why I always got big projects and mind you, many of those clients I had are still my clients until today but one thing I truly hate about Odesk policy is that they always asserts that it will be the clients’ responsibilities over their contractors when it comes to work and that sounds very true, “Bravo”! but if your client gets robbed, will you still apply this principle? well, sad to say, Odesk does and that is very absurd knowing the nature of the offense like looting hours from clients must be protected at all cost in any ethical business organization;

    On the other hand, there are many clients who are abusing the contractors by paying only 0.50 cents/ hour thus taking advantage because these contractors are citizens of one of world’s poorest nation’s like India, Africa, Bangladesh etc. If you go to Elance.com, you will find out that their minimum rate is $3/hour but odesk has a policy to make people slaves;

    I never give cents to my contractors and everytime I saw many who are being paid with cents really breaks my heart because I know where I came from and that was when I started as a contractor but I feel blessed because started at rate of $7/hour.

    I finally Conclude that Odesk is the very one who is responsible to all these people getting victimized both Contactors and Clients. If odesk only knows how to use humanistic reasons in forming their policy, there could be peace and much honesty in the marketplace. Odesk is the head and the tail of all of these problems because they probably only thinks of the money and these things does not make them less than the looters and abusers.

  • Guys,
    I read the complete thread and wonder why people conclude it is a scam blindly.

    Dev factory hires the best of the Technical and Management people.

    you are just writing a test to get into the job and who will pay for writing the test?

    for oDesk, they have to award the job and then only – start the process – so they pay a minimum 0.01$. That is just a formality to abide by the website policies.

    Once you complete the written test and interview , then you land into the actual job and get paid as per the job posting.

    If you want $100 for writing a test – then you will earn only $100 throughout your life.

    People focussing on a long term career consider this as a good opportunity and are successful

    Bala

  • Vishal

    Why does they ask for colored photo id? and
    Why not informed through oDesk or other freelancing site about your clearance of test and schedule of skype interview? and
    “donotreply[@]invalidemail[dot]com” this is email from i received skype interview schedule.

    So,can anybody answer above three questions if devfactory is legit??

  • dagnx

    got an invita , passed a test and skype interview, busy with trial . Hope its not a fraud!!! PS I think the people who say gdev has a one page website does not understand the company as it has more than 20 different products and could not piossibly put it all on one website , gdev is only a platform

  • Pjotr

    gDev itself is not a scam, see:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versata

    "In early 2009, Versata made another major overhaul of its business model when it asked all its employees in India to work as contractors through oDesk for a gDev which is an entity incorporated by Trilogy to manage it's outsourcing activities. The only employees left in Versata were the ones in US."

    If they're using people to work for them for free is another question though, as I see hundreds of invited freelancers that were accepted for a trial for a particular job since June where it's unbelievable that they won't have found enough people already.

  • guest

    Have had multiple invites from gdev over the past year. Rejected many because it was for full time and I just couldn't do a 2nd full time job or quit my first job w/o some proof this is a stable job and pay. So I was offered a job for a very high rate of pay. Tested on their website for the position. Received a email saying that I failed the test. Received a 2nd email from a different person saying that they wanted to interview me through skype. I took the interview and the interviewer said that he was recommending me for the position and I would hear something in 1-3 weeks. Well its been a month and I have heard nothing new. Asked the interviewer by email what the issue was and he said to have some patience. So from my perspective it appears to be some kind of scam. When I sent in my drivers license I removed the actual ID # from the picture. So I don't believe it could be used anymore for identity theft but who knows. I doubt that I will hear anything further from them.

  • frank

    Have had multiple invites from gdev over the past year. Rejected many because it was for full time and I just couldn't do a 2nd full time job or quit my first job w/o some proof this is a stable job and pay. So I was offered a job for a very high rate of pay. Tested on their website for the position. Received a email saying that I failed the test. Received a 2nd email from a different person saying that they wanted to interview me through skype. I took the interview and the interviewer said that he was recommending me for the position and I would hear something in 1-3 weeks. Well its been a month and I have heard nothing new. Asked the interviewer by email what the issue was and he said to have some patience. So from my perspective it appears to be some kind of scam. When I sent in my drivers license I removed the actual ID # from the picture. So I don't believe it could be used anymore for identity theft but who knows. I doubt that I will hear anything further from them.

  • Tina

    I don’t know who to believe here. So confused. Can anyone contact me so we can compare stories please do at tinadw2x@yahoo.com

  • Bjorn

    I am receiving invites on a regular basis, mostly for bilingual German/English positions and they immediately fly into the waste bin.

    What really activated my BS sensors where the following statement in all of their job offers:
    “We work with you through one of several approved staffing and payment platforms which will charge a percentage fee on your gross earnings, but you understand how those are.”

    In fact nobody “understands how those are” unless somebody explains it to you. So I once got in touch with one of them wannabe recruiters and asked for more information concerning the percentage fees. The guy tried to talk his way out, coming up with all types of replies but nothing really answering my question. He said that it’s not that much or that I should simply go through the process and see for myself. A huge load of bull if you ask me.

  • Alan Hayes

    I just did a little research since I also got the job offer from them. The address is someones home, not a business. The phone number doesn’t even exist for Austin, TX. 512 area code? Not part of Austin’s area code list. This company is a huge fraud and hoax.

    I was looking forward for it, but now I’m just going to decline. Thats bull and I want to see them removed from oDesk.

  • this is for :Fritzgerald, F.

    as you have mentioned : “On the other hand, there are many clients who are abusing the contractors by paying only 0.50 cents/ hour thus taking advantage because these contractors are citizens of one of world’s poorest nation’s like India, Africa, Bangladesh etc.”

    Dude India is not a poor country 😛 mind well:)

  • elysk

    Those who believe the following job description comes from a serious source can blame themself as fools. Just compare with serious ones and you will see that this one belongs to your rubbish bin!

    We need a fantastic communicator to sell you this job. Unfortunately, we don’t have you, yet. You’ll just have to picture how good this job could be as described by you.
    Because you don’t follow formulas, you are a natural seller.
    You bring people into your worldview rather than being sucked into theirs.
    You are a fantastic communicator.
    You can because you think you can. Everyone else just falls into step with you.
    You are not thrown off balance by the occasional angry customer.
    You are that irresistible combination of aggressive, likeable, relentlessly positive, and fearless.
    If that really is you, we want you to manage our accounts. As GTeam FZ LLC Senior Account Manager – you would manage our current account relationships – including Global 1000 companies – on behalf of our portfolio of software companies. We would trust you with our most challenging and largest customer relationships.
    We offer you the world – a senior global sales role in the technology industry, a combination of challenging “big deal” sales and sales management.
    We might need you to teach others. You might manage not only sales, but also a team of less experienced account managers. If you are who we think you are, you should have no problem with:
    • Hiring and firing
    • Coaching and management
    • Metric reporting
    • Process management
    The number one skill you must have is communication. Besides that, you need:
    • Experience in sales or customer relations
    • Strong writing skills in English (you could write this job description better yourself)
    • Positive and resilient mindset
    • Ability to produce even when things are moving fast and nobody’s telling you what to do
    • Proven ability to prioritize and multi-task
    • Strong relationship-building skills
    • Good PC skills, including Microsoft Office 2007 or higher and Google Docs
    • Quiet work environment (loud children and pets reliably occupied elsewhere), high-speed Internet, good headset, and at least 2 GB of RAM.
    • Skype with video webcam
    • Bachelor’s degree (preferred)
    • Salesforce experience is a plus!
    We pay $30/hour ($1000 fixed-price payment for a trial job if that trial leads us to hire you). We work with you through one of several approved staffing and payment platforms which will charge a percentage fee on your gross earnings, but you understand how those are. For United States citizens and permanent residents, we pay $24/hour because we have to cover W-2 processing.
    How to qualify:
    1. Show us who you are. We need verifiable identification, online skills tests, and a brief Skype video interview. Sorry, this part is not paid, but it won’t last more than a week, and if you’ve got the motivation, you’ll be done in a few hours.
    2. Try out the job. During a one-week fixed-price trial assignment, prove to us that we should give you the full-time position of 40 hours/week at the job’s hourly rate. You will be paid for the test assignment ONLY if we decide to hire you based on the test assignment results. If we decide not to hire you, there will be no payment made.
    We’re looking for progress and dedication; if you show that, we may have other positions in GTeam FZ LLC for you even if you don’t get the assignment quite right.
    How to start:
    We’ll make you a fixed-price offer to start qualifying, and you’ll get detailed instructions as soon as you accept this offer for the test phase. (This is not the paid part, but it’s how we get you into the appropriate recruiting team room.)
    GTeam FZ LLC is proud to be an equal opportunity employer that provides an exceptional work environment. All candidates will be required to undergo and pass a rigorous background check to ensure a safe and productive workplace.
    To get started, click “Apply for this Position” below.
    http://www.gteamfzllc.com/careers-application?jobid=50

  • I received two of the emails from gteam fz llc ‘inviting’ me to apply for at-home C# software development. I was intrigued as the thought of some part-time extra income has appeal. However, the e-mails are generic and vague, their website is only one page, and even then just talks about their hiring of people not actually any services they provide customers, and they ask for (in my opinion) too much information in the application process. Perhaps if they had a legitimate website I may have been more trusting, but they are asking me to send an unknown, untrustworthy, unverifiable source scanned copies of government ID and other things – I find it too risky. I wonder if it is an identity theft scam.

  • Olive D

    I received an invitation to interview nearly 2 weeks ago. I completed their initial form and within a couple days was invited to take the test. That same day I was interviewed via Skype. It’s almost been a week since the interview and my test phase contract is still active. I’m hoping to hear from them soon.

  • Amit

    I want to write a lot about this DevFactory / gDev FZ LLC, Dubai (www.devfactory.com), but due to time constraint, I m trying to tell maximum in few lines….

    Their intention is to save US government taxes, by routing their income from US to Dubai (a tax free zone!) And as IRS (Internal revenue services) wants a detail of every penny flows outside US by US firm, they have to legitimately show that they have hired people and paid them and that is how their Dubai firm had made a lot of profit!!! And this is why they hire people on oDesk and eLance. i.e. Just to show US authority (IRS), and Not to get any genuine work done!!!!

    And while achieving this(enforced payment to show IRS), they have done a mutual benefit contract with oDesk or eLance that while achieving their goal of saving tax, they will promote this freelancing culture and their sites.

    So for that, they will send invites to mostly all oDesk or eLance users, luring them with an extra ordinary payment offer (starting from 15$ per hour, 40hr/week), and lure them to apply for interview and test.

    Then they will try to engage you maximum in the process using a highly un-predictable course of actions (in other words, you will never inform in advance about what will happen when (exact in time)), mostly when u give online test and a brief skype interview, you will never know from when your contract will start. **So they will try maximum to detach you from your ongoing work!!!!**

    Once offered a contract, their immediate goal is to annoy/irritate/frustrate you to terminate your contract (there are thousands way to do this, you will get to know once you get a contract). If you wont get annoyed enough to terminate your contract by yourself, they will kick you out siting a performance reason!!!

    **So, once they offered you a contract, their immediate goal will be to kick you out as soon as possible.** So that they can cover maximum number of freelancers in their budget! (of Course they don’t have a money plant to pay you 10$ to 30$ per hour, 40hr/week!!!).They need to pay in proportion of book amount/profit they want to transfer from US to Dubai!

    So please don’t get trapped!!! Don’t leave your full time job looking at their luring offer! **They don’t want to pay you for a long time, in fact they will try to get rid of you as early as possible!**

    And Finally, don’t ever think that they have some serious/genuine work for you to get it done!!! It is worst time pass in IT ever!!!

    Disclaimer: This is a personal views of a writer and do not constitutes any legal claims.

  • Goce

    I’ve past the test an d the interview. Waiting for the trial.

    Most of the comments here are dissapointing. I have big doubts now…

  • Tom

    This is what i found somewhere else and I think this is not far from the true:

    **gTeam FZ LLC is a sister concern of Versata, Trilogy. Formally they were active on oDesk by the name of devFactory / gDev. Now a days they have changed their name to gTeam FZ LLC.**

    In short, all of these are just another name!!!

    Please find a very crisp review about this gTeam, gDev, devFactroy primarily active as a biggest employer on freelancing sites like oDesk, eLance etc.

    I want to write a lot about this DevFactory / gDev FZ LLC / gTeam FZ LLC (www.devfactory.com, http://www.gteamfzllc.com), but due to time constraint, I m trying to tell maximum in few lines….

    Their intention is to save US government taxes, by routing their income from US to Dubai (a tax free zone!) And as IRS (Internal revenue services) wants a detail of every penny flows outside US by US firm, they have to legitimately show that they have hired people and paid them and that is how their Dubai firm had made a lot of profit!!! And this is why they hire people on oDesk and eLance. i.e. Just to show US authority (IRS), and Not to get any genuine work done!!!!

    And while achieving this(enforced payment to show IRS), they have done a mutual benefit contract with oDesk or eLance that while achieving their goal of saving tax, they will promote this freelancing culture and their sites.

    So for that, they will send invites to mostly all oDesk or eLance users, luring them with an extra ordinary payment offer (starting from 15$ per hour, 40hr/week), and lure them to apply for an interview and test.

    Then they will try to engage you maximum in the process using a highly un-predictable course of actions (in other words, you will be never informed in advance about what will happen when (exact in time)), and most importantly once you gave online test and a brief skype interview, you will never know from when your contract will start. **So they will try maximum to detach you from your ongoing work/job!!!!**

    Once offered a contract, their immediate goal is to annoy/irritate/frustrate you to terminate your contract (there are thousands of ways to do this, you will get to know once you get a contract). If you won’t get annoyed enough to terminate your contract by yourself, they will kick you out siting a performance reason!!!

    **So, once they offered you a contract, their immediate goal will be to kick you out as soon as possible.** So that they can cover maximum number of freelancers in their budget! (of Course they don’t have a money plant to pay you 10$ to 30$ per hour, 40hr/week!!!).They need to pay in proportion of book amount/profit they want to transfer from US to Dubai!

    So please don’t get trapped!!! Don’t leave your full time job looking at their luring offer! **They don’t want to pay you for a long time at all, in fact they will try to get rid of you as early as possible after taking you on board!**

    And Finally, don’t ever think that they have some serious/genuine work for you to get it done!!! It is the worst time pass in IT ever!!!

    Disclaimer: This is a personal views of a writer and do not constitutes any legal claims. 34e207c

  • guestguest

    I do not think devfactory is a scam. Their trial and testing phase is just any test how a regular “non-online” work would give to a candidate. This is very similar on how I would get hired by an IT consulting firm (non online work). They provide exams(some are short but normally ranges 2-3hrs), most have written and hands on exam. Some even give me take home exams and let me submit it online next day. All of them did not pay me to do the tests, and I do not think any employer would, right? I even invested some for my suit, taxi fare / car gas and whole day for the exam/interview appointments, even lose a bit of sleep the day before coz of too much anticipation. Tell me that this is not the typical hiring process of any company esp for IT position? After that they interview us, they even let us wait for few mins to hours for the actual/face to face interview. We even had to buy lunch because the actual process extended until pm unexpectedly. So tell me, how is this different to a non online work?

    I noticed most of the ppl here bashing devfactory are the ones who did not make the cut or did not even try doing the test and yet they claim it as a scam when in the first place they never even tried it. If you wanted payments for doing the test (even if you fail), how will you feel if the contractor will say you are the scammer? If that would be the case, how would you think it will impact the hiring process? I bet millions will take the test knowing they will get paid regardless if they fail or pass, then many will go about it with out exerting any effort in passing it. 15$ is not a smooth amount of money to pay a Software Engineer. it is actually just about right, just how much my non-online employer pays me so contrary to many saying that it is h”huge” “smooth” luring amount of money for online work, I do not think it is. It is actually considered “low” if you are from US (or $ country).

    No, I am not a devfactory staff. I actually applied but never got hired. I passed the exam but not the trial phase. Completely my fault not theirs.

    Also, the instructions in the email CLEARLY states that you will ONLY get paid if you get hired. It also says that the contract is NOT MONETARY but just to filter candidates, thus the test and trial.

    I mean cmon be fair on this one, if you want success, you should at least willing to invest on it.

    • me

      Thank you. And oh so so true guestguest. I also noticed that the only people complaining are those not hired. I also went through testing and a trial, for TAM, and I found it difficult to navigate the TAM reaources. That wasn’t their fault, they even say that only technical related issues will be assisted and anything having to do with the job itself. I am about to find my results and if I have a new opportunity for a Javascript position.

  • guestguest

    also, about the valid ID. I think they use it to validate that IT IS the actual you who is taking/took the exam/interview. To validate and authenticate that YOU were the one who actually passed/did it and not some other guy (you ask/pay ) who are willing to do the work for you just so you will get hired.

    Analogy: why do they create biometrics with our finger prints? Because the old rf swipe thing has loop hole, some ppl let their coworkers swipe their cards for them for log in log out and their working time is complete.

  • inquiring mind

    Thanks for those who posted the good or bad. It is helpful. Here is my story, keep in mind I am in between contracts so I have a little time to invest in this and check this potential scam out from the inside.

    This gdev company reached out to me for the Snr Account Mgr (English/Japanese) role on elance. I took the 150 question test (approx. 2.5 hrs) on a Sunday morning and received an email stating I missed the passing grade by 2 points (I think 83 vs 85 passing points). I just dismissed it, grabbed a beer and enjoyed the rest of my afternoon.

    Monday rolls around and I get an email from one of their interview/appointment setters (I think they call these the Exec Assistant on their job listings), a girl from Manila, Philippines, and she says that she is trying to setup a skype interview on a certain date for a System Engineer role. Wrong role and we get into a small email ping pong volley on what role, and failing test grades and what is actually real.

    I got tired of the b.s. and contacted the guy who initially reached out to me, some indian fellow named Chirag Jalu, who connected with me on LinkedIn and started to promote all my skills out there, which means crap all to me as I don’t rely on LinkedIn for much of anything besides a more business like facebook page. Anyway I ask him about my failing test score and the wrong role and how I was passed to move forward, but he says they made an exception for me. Yay I am special. Haha.

    Long story short, after clearing up the role and my failing test score, they said I can move forward to the interview. Interview was with that Filipina girl via skype, and she asked a total of 7 questions during my rendition of my resume. Her webcam would flicker on every few minutes and I did get to see her. Certainly not in an office environment, maybe in an internet cafe? The entire ordeal lasted a total of 15 minutes. She wouldn’t ask any real questions because she didn’t have any knowledge or experience in my specific business domain. It was also kind of funny because there wasn’t any real language capability test in japanese.

    After passing the interview, they sent me their NDA like document, digitally signed it and was asked to provide my US government issued ID. This made me suspicious as I am vertified on Elance, and told her as such. She insisted, so I scanned my passport and blocked out the important info, eg passport #, where it was issued, expiration date, etc. She accepted it and supposedly is sending along to the “hiring manager”. Next step is for this mysterious hiring manager to give me my next instructions by email. (Not holding my breath).

    In conclusion, the timing was about 2.5 weeks, which included the fumbling time it took them to approve my failing test score and set me up for the right role to interview. Makes me laugh actually as I am very familiar with Filipino/Filipina work actions, or lack thereof, as I am getting a BPO/healthcare service line there now.

    Is it a scam? My spidey senses are tingling something fierce and since it is better to be safe than sorry (aka not waste anymore time), I am going to focus on other higher paying areas. I don’t know about you folks, but $30 USD’s / hour is really low for me. This is more like a documentary on a real life scam that makes me coming back for more.

    Check this out (found this business week link by googling gdev fz llc reviews)
    –> Notice the comment on NO KEY EXECS RECORDED.
    http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=107796472

    Good luck and feel free to email me if you want to share details.
    new_00145@yahoo.com

  • A.Ni.

    They (gDev) contacted me through oDesk with three different open positions. I declined those with a short note explaining that I am not yet qualified for those positions, so they sent me two other openings that they believed I may qualify for.

    So far I’ve only taken 3 oDesk tests — The Readiness Test, The English Vocabulary Test, and The English Grammar Test. I actually did pretty well on them, but I have yet to take any oDesk programming tests.

    The reason I mention this is because one of the patterns that I’ve noticed in all of the comments posted here is that the people who are complaining about gDev seem to have a tentative grasp (and this is actually a euphemism) of English and English vocabulary. In short: the “people” who claim it’s a scam have atrocious English writing skills. I honestly believe that a client’s English language ability is a part of their (gDev’s) hiring criteria, and that said naysayers are perhaps just a few really upset individuals who flunked gDev’s tests (and perhaps 7th grade English) and are attempting to ruin the company’s reputation. (With the possible exception of “Inquiring Mind”, who does seem to have a grasp of the English language.)

    It seems to me that the most believable view I’ve seen posted here so far has been from “gdev Interviewer” — who didn’t paint a pretty picture at all, basically stating that gDev is a legitimate company, but they suck to work with and seem not to care about whether or not they tick off their potential contractors. The other relatively believable experience comes from
    “Inquiring Mind”. The rest of them I’m just ignoring, but caution is always a good policy in general. I haven’t even verified my I.D. for oDesk, so why would I do this for gDev?

    (Having said this, I understand that my own writing skills are perhaps a bit lacking… but I still scored in the upper 25% on the oDesk tests… which is kind of scary.)

  • Nikos

    How do the proponents of the scamming scheme explain the 4.93/5 rating at oDesk?

  • A freelancer

    Hi there everybody,

    it looks like there is many pros and cons about gDev/gTeam , I got myself as well contacted by them for which I was quite surprised. I was about today, to go for their test since I got hired on the test phase. They took quite a while to come back to me after inviting me to apply for one position. As one said in a previous comment, they are probably all over the internet…

    Suddenly I felt I needed to check them out for some reasons and see what other people were to say. Right now I am not quite sure I will be trying them out, especially since there is a chance that they would not fulfill their promises by paying you as planned after the test phase.

    I recently applied for another position about entry data specialist on http://www.freebase.com/, https://www.odesk.com/applications/244281077 I underwent a series of tests as well, and I have now the bad feeling that I was used while they were testing me such as what has been described in many other posts. I am not entirely sure about that though, but they needed my ID, I gave them the oDesk one, we had an interview on Skype with video and one thing I’m pretty sure about is that, I did quite well at the tests they gave me, and I had 24 hours to proceed, I did the first 2 and was pending the 3rd one for which I had plenty of time to complete. I wanted to do it the very next day. However they rejected me overnight saying that they had hired somebody else. All that was very strange to me. When I then asked if I could have my mark, they said thank you for your time, you can reapply in 3 months. If this peculiar case, that might have been only the way they do it, but their offer again is pretty appealing 40hrs a weeks, paid quite well too…And with and overall spent as high as gDev.

    I think we need to be very cautious about all that, inform ourselves since we spend a lot of time passing tests here and there and with our ID going all over the place, for mere results at the end of the day.

    If this is a big scam and they use people at their convenience, that won’t remain in the shadow for long and one day they’ll get severely exposed for sure, I am pretty confident about that. Now whether one wants to try and get hired or refuse the job, that may be a risk to take either way, but one can only get to know by trying. I am not sure I want to know since I’m convinced by the cons in many ways, and the pros may only be people working for gDev already…

    Only thing is…If gDev is a scam, then Odesk is compromised with many others which is not nice for the freelancers that we are, it doesn’t help us getting straight jobs. Plus Odesk is a very professional platform, so it seems, therefore that would give them quite a bad image…

    Thank you for reading me,

  • Tina

    Ok Guys if anyone has question about the company feel free to contact me. I was in the same position 4 months ago. I was not sure if it was a scam. But really im employed for 4 months now. It is very difficult to get the job. Their standards are very high. But if you are smart enough and you can do what u say u can, then u will get the job.
    I can be reach at Tinadw2x@yahoo.com. Just write in the title of ur email gDev company so i know u are not spam.
    Thanks 🙂

  • Carlos

    I was asked to trial with them about 2 months ago.
    I searched for them and i found this site, and i was obviously suspicious after reading all this.

    But since i had nothing to loose, i appied for the job.
    It was tough, the test took around 4 hours, and after a small interview and a week later.
    I was asked to do the week test.
    Someone here implied that week test was like free labour. But that is not the case, the test is hard if you don’t know what you are doing, and that was my case. But after you know what you did, you know it was quite worthless for them.

    But with that test, if you can do a good job, follow their standards withoug wining for help, then they are sure that you got what it takes and you are one of the best.

    So i was finally hired about 2 weeks waiting since my week test, and i am VERY HAPPY working for them now for 2 weeks.

    I was payed for the week test on the first week cicle after i was hired and i love the job.
    My team mates are great guys, all freelancers like me. Some work for them for over 1.5 years and all of them seem quite happy and motivated.

    So if you get their invitation , apply.
    If you dont pass, well then you are simply not good enough for their standards.

  • JustShakingMyHead

    I didn’t research much about gTeam when I was invited for an interview. First, I was just surprised to get a very attractive offer and went ahead and applied because I didn’t want to pass up on the opportunity. So first couple of tries I didn’t get the job but that didn’t stop me. Got a job I applied for on the third try. Also, I went to ALL three applications/Testing Phases were much aware that the application process is NOT PAID. I have well understood that I will only get the Fixed-Price offer ONLY if I have worked within company standards and actually hires me for the hourly-rate employment.

    The position I was hired on includes a lot of interaction with applicants and I am disgusted about what candidates(mostly the ones who failed) come up with saying it’s a scam, not paying, etc.

    So here is what I’ve concluded in the amount of communication with applicants and colleagues so far:
    “Not paying” – Seriously? I have read the initial offer and the job description page and they never failed to inform that candidates only get paid for their work if they get actually hired. Didn’t like that part? You shouldn’t have gone through with the process in the first place. You’ll be surprised to know that previous hires(Yes, plural!) even come back for other jobs with gTeam. Who in their right mind will come back to a company who doesn’t pay? Why they quit the other job? Who cares? They might have accepted a possibly better offer somewhere else that didn’t come through so well so they applied back after a few months. The fact is that they come back for a reason.
    “Scam” – How so? If you’re going back to the “Not paying” part then just read about 10 lines up or STFU.

    I choose to stay anonymous because as I mentioned, I do a lot of interaction with applicants and I don’t want attention from upcoming applicants but as far as I’m concerned, I’m still hired and being paid and doing a legit job. That’s all you need to know.

  • zuel

    HiAll !

    gTeam is not a scam. I recently got hired and gonna start working online anytime this week. I also got paid for the trail-week ($540) as promised, well – i passed. yipee!

    the test is hard. if your gutsy enough to take it on and pass, then they’ll realize you got what it takes to be part of their team – and hire you.

    for those sour-graping about the invites & test-offers, let me ask you this. If a local big company invites you for an interview because they saw your profile online, would you go? And after 4 interviews and some technical tests – not mentioning the personal time & cost of travelling to the local big company office – you were not good enough for them. You were not hired! Now, faced with this – would you tell all your friends that Globe, San Miguel, HP, Accenture or IBM are all scams because you didn’t make the grade? gTeam even paid me for the trouble of passing the test. Now, if that wasn’t GREAT, i don’t know what is. In local parlance, they call that – SIGNING BONUS.

  • Me

    It’s an identity fraud operation. If they got your ID, you’d better cancel it before the bills arrive.

    * If they only hire the very best, why do they want your ID before even processing your application?
    * If they’re so smart, how come their web site has been down all week and how come the google cached version from a week ago looks like the first web page ever?
    * Why can’t you find the company details online or who the CEO is?
    * Why does some bloke in Croatia own their domain?
    * If they’re trying to build a high-quality name, why do they change it every five minutes?
    * Why did I get an invite on a Saturday night for an interview on Sunday morning?
    * Why doesn’t the interviewer tell you anything about the company, seem to have any clue about the job you’re applying for, or even have any questions he wants to ask you?
    * Why did he look blank when I merely asked what programming languages they used?
    * Why did my skype crash for the only time ever half way through the interview, never to start again, and why was that computer unusably slow until I reinstalled it?

    I reckon the people on here saying they got paid are members of the gang. And oDesk is also in the gang. Beware.

  • Sidramehak

    I want to work with Gdev..can anybody help me

  • CVI TS Office

    I am not sure this is a scam, but its definitely a spamming company. I keep getting and trashing their job invitations almost once per week. I asked explicitly them to unsubscribe me from any future invitations, but no luck … they keep coming. This doesn’t look like a serious company with no respect for the business ethics.

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